Tuesday, January 12, 2016

Jail the Bundys, Now








ALERT

Dear All:

Within the next few days I am going to write a piece in GREEN DREAMS that starts to frame what we—the actual owners of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge—think that the occupiers have done wrong legally and that requires punishment. I would ask folks to speculate on exactly what charges should be leveled and what rational punishment should be applied and to whom. Please let me know what you think and your ideas in the comments section of this post and others. I know that these might range from firing squads to atomic wedges, but this is a serious set of questions that we should address and by doing so and by conducting a public dialog on this issue help those trying to assess the public appetite for doing something. Thank you for your help and interest in this important concern.

And please enter the public dialog on Jail the Bundys, Now and encourage others to do the same.



1 comment:

  1. This came from an "AddictingInfo" blog by Stephen D Foster, Jr. It was a discussion with Sheriff Ward of Burns/Harney County, but it wasn't a direct quote of Ward's words:
    "Indeed, right now the group faces charges of sedition and treason against the United States. In addition, they also face charges for breaking and entering, carrying guns on federal property, and trespassing, just to name a few."

    I would add that I think domestic terrorism charges should be added because they have indeed terrorized the individuals around Burns. Many reported being followed, harrassed and intimidated, especially those people that were federal employees.

    I think it is also appropriate to file charges that directly deal with protecting federal employees. I have my issues with some federal employees, but under no circumstances should people be taking the issues out on them personally.

    High Country News did a piece this last summer:
    http://www.hcn.org/articles/new-threats-harassment-of-federal-land-agency-employees-cliven-bundy

    The courts are there expressly for the purpose of mediating any differences that citizens have with the government's decisions from the executive branch. We don't get to just declare the gubmint null and void, declare federal employees nonpersons, and disregard the law.

    Seditious conspiracy seems the most apropos of the current circumstances.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

    This is punishable by fines and up to twenty years in prison.

    Combine this with weapons charges which are crucial in this case, and which I think should be under some terrorism rubric. It seems the leaders should be subject to maximum penalties, and the followers to lesser, but very significant penalties. Aiding and abetting should also be considered important.

    The penalties should disable future actions such as this by the leaders, for instance by life sentences, while greatly discouraging the followers and future followers from such idiocy that endangers other people and wildlands. Multiple years would seem appropriate for hanging out with guns on federal property unpermitted, and intimidating everyone, including armed federal agents, from entering the property or doing their assigned jobs.

    On the other hand, less level thinking might suggest just declaring their Sagebrush Rebellion a bona fide rebellion and sending in some well-trained Native American F-15 pilots with enough ordinance to take care of the rebels and demonstrate that their puny little assault rifles are no match for the true power of the US gubmint. Letting Native Americans have the pleasure of removing these cowboy squatters with US Air Force munitions does have a certain poetic justice about it.

    Did I just say that? Shame on me...

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